The info in this section was recorded for the Inglewood gathering
from the 4th to the 6th January 1978
Within the pages of Rutherford and Skinner’s “THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE NEW PLYMOUTH SETTLEMENT IN NEW ZEALAND, 1841-1843″ can be found the story of the voyage from Plymouth, Devon, to New Plymouth, New Zealand, of the “WILLIAM BRYAN” and the other five ships of this expedition, complete with their passenger lists; so it is neither necessary nor desirable for this information to be repeated. Rather will we concentrate on the lives and progress of James and Jane Climo, a young married couple who arrived on 1 April 1841 in the company of 148 other passengers which included Jane Climo’s widowed mother, Mrs Anne Phillips and her family of five.
For the purposes of this family history site,
I have tracked down the passenger list of the William Bryan…
Perhaps the most exciting event on the voyage out had been the marriage on board, on 14 January 1841, of Miss Ann Phillips, spinister, of 18 years, to John James, Blacksmith, bachelor of 27 years, the ceremony being performed by Henry Weekes, Surgeon-Superintendent, with the aid of her sister Mrs James Climo’s wedding ring.
After the first few weeks of settling in, which included the erection of some kind of dwelling for a home and the starting of a garden for vegetables, James, along with so many of the new arrivals, found that work was difficult to obtain unless he had New Zealand Company employment; but being willing to try anything he became in time a surveyor’s chairman, walking untold miles through the untracked Taranaki bush. Surveyor’s gangs would have up to a dozen men, mostly labourers, who slashed their way through the undergrowth, constructed footbridges across streams and creeks in the gullies, making tracks for packhorses when they became available, and forcing their way to the top of the highest hills, there to clear away the timber and set up the all-important trig stations. When a given area had been mapped the surveyor and his gang moved to a new part of the country; making a settled life impossible for a family man, and this is what James soon became.
In the meantime he was gaining knowledge and experience essential for survival – that prime requisite in a pioneer. He learned the arts of the Maori, their language and customs; foods and remedies, swimming and crossing streams and rivers; providing shelter and fire; snaring and shooting birds and waterfowl and fishing, as well as the many uses of bush plants and timbers.
His aim was to secure a plot of land and to eventually become a farmer, in accordance with the promises of the Company, but the latter’s inability to buy from the Maori’s owners and grant title to land was a serious blow to the settlers.
On 5 November 1841, the birth of their first child – Elizabeth Catherine – the first Pakeha baby born in New Plymouth – was a great event in the Settlement and in the lives of James and Jane. Tradition has it that the Maori people were so amazed at seeing a white-skinned baby that the chief bestowed on her a plot of land which, alas, at a later date James was obliged to sell in order to feed and clothe his family.
Work in New Plymouth became more and more difficult with the arrival of further ships bringing emigrants to the settlement, so the following year (1842) they went north to Kawhia where it is thought James continued as a member of the survey party. How long they stayed there is not known, but as an old man he told of the early visit to this settlement of governor Hobson, who while there nursed the baby Elizabeth Catherine.
That their stay in Kawhia must have been some considerable time is borne out by the fact that on returning to New Plymouth They were shipwrecked at the Kawhia Heads, losing all their possessions but saving their TWO children. Then followed their long journey on foot, carrying the children on their shoulders for ten days, living on native foods and fording all rivers.
They were given hospitality in some Maori villages but when they arrived at the first mission station they were directed on their way without even a cup of tea. James claimed they trudged 150 miles, and in such a rugged area it would have seemed endless to Jane and the children.
There is no record, neither official nor traditional, concerning the second child – merely an ominous gap between Elizabeth Catherine and the baptism of John in New Plymouth in 1846. We are greatly indebted to the Primitive Methodist Archives for this and the following information:
Burial – Henui 1848, James Climo,
child of James Climo,
In 1848 still landless but by then an experienced bushman, James decided to try his luck in the Auckland area and accordingly set forth ON FOOT, Jane and the children leaving on 15 January 1849 aboard the coastal schooner “ELLEN”. Also on board the vessel was the Rev. Robert Ward, a Methodist minister who was visiting small European settlements along the West Coast. On 20 January the voyagers reached the Manakau Heads where the ship hit a sandbank and was in imminent danger due to the sea breaking over the vessel, until she worked herself into deeper water. Mr Ward left the “ELLEN” at muddy Creek to preach to the sawyers of English, Irish and Scottish descent, and it was here at the Manakau Kauri Mills that James worked for the next three years.
A recently discovered entry of baptism in the early Registers of St. Peter’s Church, Onehunga, shows the date of Richard Climo’s birth as 12 February 1849, and though no certificate to this effect has been forthcoming from official sources, the following year saw the arrival of George with his birth duly registered as 12 August, 1850, at Auckland.
So many men having been caught up in the Californian Gold Rush of 1849, James had no difficulty in maintaining his employment, whilst back in Taranaki some progress toward land settlement was being made, whereby Mr Cutfield, the principal agent, was prepared to allocate sections to the original settlers. And so, by 1852, we find James walking from Auckland to Taranaki. We have no record of how Jane and the four children traveled but presumably there were no further untoward watery experiences! So, at least, we discover the Climo family living on a 200 acre bush covered section at Tataraimaka, 15 miles south-west from New Plymouth. A farm at last.
Imagine the happiness and satisfaction of James and his family at having reached their goal. Here, in an idyllic situation, with Mt. Egmont towering behind and the Tasman Sea before them they carved out a farm for themselves, helping and being helped by good neighbours in true pioneer fashion. Doubtless experience was put to good use as he felled the big totaras for timber and fencing material, and the rates for Jane’s home-fires. Struggling they might have been, but no one would have been cold or hungry.
And here the family continued to grow – with Emily arriving in 1852, Samuel (registered as Samson) in 1854, Jane 1855, Robert 1857 and Ellen in 1859. Apart from these birthdates we have few details of their life on the farm expecting that their lease had reached its second stage, and their rent had risen from 4/- to 7/- per acre per annum, as was agreed. And we know the Maori unrest over illegal land sales was growing and that by 1858 James was being drilled and trained for the Militia. But this did not deter him from having erected the framework of a two-storey house, as described by their friend and neighbour Robert Brookes.
Nor could such things prevent romance from knocking on the farmstead door! Elizabeth Catherine was a young woman of 16 years when she was married to George Pope on 30 April 1857 at Tataraimaka, the couple continuing to live on the farm. The pope family, consisting of mother and father and five children had arrived by the “TIMANDRA” (1842), George then being nine years old. In 1859 the arrival of their son, William – the first grandson – said to have been born at Bell Block – was an event of great joy to the families.
And so to the fateful year of 1860. It is sad to think of the sudden turn of events: the call to arms, the building of redoubts, the evacuation of the outlying homes and farms, the arrival of the gunboat with British Forces and the battles that ensue. James’ farm cart, in all probability having been used to transport the women and children, was abandoned near Omata Redoubt as everyone flocked into New Plymouth for safety. And amidst all the turmoil the child, Ellen, then 14 months old, died from water on the brain and was buried on 22 March in Henui Cemetery, four days before the first battle, on 26 March, at Waireka where James was wounded.
How long it was before he was discharged from hospital is not known. In April proclamations by the Military were published in New Plymouth, then thought to be endangered, urging the people to take necessary precautions and to be prepared for evacuation to Port Cooper (Lyttleton) in case of attack on the town by the rebels. Fortunately this did not eventuate, but Jane and Elizabeth, with their children, along with scores of other non-combatants were taken to Nelson for safety. James joined them in Nelson when he was fit enough to travel and here he convalesced.
To complete the scene at Tataraimaka let us read Robert Brooke’s evidence as given in support of James Climo’s claim for compensation: (by courtesy of National Archives) Robert Brookes of Tataraimaka, farmer, being sworn faith. The Paper marked A contains a true statement of the losses of James Climo of Tataraimaka during the recent disturbances. James Climo was my neighbour at Tataraimaka – he was wounded at Waireka and went to Nelson – he sent me an inventory of the things he left behind from Nelson, asking me to make out his claim which I have done.
He was living at Tataraimaka until driven into town by the commencement of the war. The house he was living in at the time was burnt, it had been built about six years. It was built of posts fixed in the ground on which weatherboard was nailed, about 32ft. thatched roof, cob chimney. He intended to use it as a barn when his new house was built. The frame of a new house was up and complete. The house was to be 20ft. by 20ft. and two-stories high. It was put up by James Corbett, carpenter, and he estimated it from 45 Pounds to 50 Pounds. I put it down at 42 Pounds from my own judgment before speaking to Corbett. The three cows were all good milch cows in milk when he left them. They were good average dairy cows. I have inquired of those who have been at Tataraimaka and cannot hear anything of them. The young cattle were from 9 to 12 months old. Climo had 96 sheep brought to Omata from time to time from Tataraimaka, and have not heard of any with Climo’s brand. I saw some of them (one or two) caught by soldiers at Kaikiki. It may be possible that there may be some at Omata unclaimed – the brand being obliterated. There are none at Tataramaka. Of the pigs two were large barrow pigs fit for fattening for winter. The other was a slip.
The plough was an iron plough in good repair with new skim cutter and cockscomb spare. The harrows were nearly new. The saws I have valued at 5/- per foot. There were
19ft. saw, 17ft. 16ft. 16 1/2ft. making 28 1/2ft. @ 5/- 7. 2. 6.
Crosscut Saw 1. 0. 0.
Wedges & Butte 17. 6.
9. 0. 0.
The cart was left by J. Northcote on the flat above Westons Iron Store and was taken away by someone from there. I had no place of my own to put it in and Climo was away at Nelson.
The turnips were a light crop. I estimate them at 10 ton per acre. The potatoes were in about 2 acres a moderate crop. The barley was in the stack. It came off 3 acres, it was a light crop. The oats came off 3 acres, it was in the stack. I helped to cart the oats and barley. The grass was English Rye grass which he had saved for his own use, it had been weighed. The fencing was new fencing lying in a heap. I believe it was sufficient for 15 chain. I am told by J. Pearce that James Climo has a lease of about 200 acres from Mr Cutfield at 4/- per acre for the first 7 years, 7/- for the second and 13/- for the third period. The rent is now paying in 7/- per acre which he has probably not paid up since the war broke out. About 145 acres are now in grass and would be worth at least one pound per acre. The fern will spring up in consequence of the stock being ………. and thistles will spread over the land. There is 100 chain of fencing more or less damaged by cattle and the Maori’s which I estimate at 2/6 per chain. Jas Pearce has seen the farm and states that the fencing is broken down in places.
No family details concerning their life in Nelson after evacuation have come down to us but it is known that as well as losing her home and child Ellen, Jane Climo was once again pregnant and it is though possible that the new baby, Louisa Ellen, could have been born in Nelson amidst the upheaval of evacuation, though – hope springing eternal as it does – New Plymough and 1860 have always been looked upon as her birthplace and year though never officially registered.
One can imagine the mental strain and anguish which husband and wife must have suffered while deciding whether or not to return to Taranaki. That they chose to go forward and not look behind shows the pluck and hardihood of those affected during the troubled times which continued throughout the North Island for another four years. James must be given credit for deciding that the South was a safer place for his wife and family. He was given a medal for his part in the battle of Waireka, but where – oh where – are the medals of the pioneer women?
The Marlborough Area
And so it was with new hope that we find James and his family coming up Pelorus Sound in August 1860 in company with the Honourable C.H. Mills on that gentleman’s first visit to the town. On landing they found the site of Havelock covered with snow. James went to work for David Wells across the Bay and at that time Mr William Wells was keeping an Accommodation House in Havelock while Mr John Wilson had one near Canvastown. There was no road in those days between Blenheim and Havelock, only a bridle track, and James and a mate went out to the Kaituna and cut, by means of pit-sawing, the first taken in that valley; they cut 20,000 feet of timber for messrs Bashford and Wylie having to use the trees from the Government road a chain in width. In December 1860 they left for Picton where James had to pay 10/- a week for a room about 12 x 10 through the walls of which he could push his fingers and they could not rest at night owing to the mosquitos. But James soon got work in the district being one of the first to work for Captain Dalton at Mt. Pleasant, Koromiki, 4 miles out of Picton.
However, by August 1862, James undertook another of his walking ventures, this time heading south for Lyttleton in his search for suitable employment accompanied by his eldest son John then 16 years of age. They stopped at a place known as Giggerego between Flaxbourne and the Clarence, where James and young John sawed timber for an accommodation house and school for a Mr Tittley. They then walked on to Lyttleton, took a ship back to Wellington and in due course returned to Picton.
The following year, 1863, the family moved to Pelorus Sound living at Kaiuma where James worked at messrs Cornfoot, Robertson and Parker’s Mill, and where the children resumed their schooling. From then onward James made sawmilling his life’s work moving in time to Mahakipawa and then Hoods Bay to where rafts of logs were towed from surrounding areas to Dive’s Mill.
It was a custom of the Mill owners and the workers to join together in the erection of a school building for which the Education Board would supply a teacher. This practice was followed at most of the Sawmill settlements, the classes going only as far as the 5th standard; but all the children and grandchildren were well and faithfully schooled at these establishments.
It was while they lived at Hoods Bay that the family grew up. Though Elizabeth Catherine and George Pope had at first settled in the Wakamarina Valley where the four Pope brothers had established a sawmill they continued with the Climo family until eventually making their permanent home in Havelock and establishing a centre for the family’s life. Emily was the next to marry, in 1867, with Richard in 1871, John in 1872, Jane in 1872 and George in 1875. Elizabeth, Emily and eventually Jane married a Pope and each had the usual large family common in those times. Living as they did in hastily built mill cottages with earth floors, with camp ovens for cooking and supplies arriving at infrequent intervals, with no domestic help except that from equally burdened relatives, and hungry hard-working men to feed as well as numerous small children to tend, sew, and mend for, life for the women folk must have been anything but rosy. And the men, dependent on water transport to a doctor or a shop or Post Office, with a tide of up to 11ft. in Sound, learned to build their own sturdy craft and to carefully ‘read the weather’ before making a trip to Havelock. That there were so few tragedies was nothing short of miraculous!
Ten or twelve years they lived and worked in the Pelorus area, mostly as a family till the names of Climo and Pope were to be found throughout the Sound and up as far as Canvastown and the Rai Valley. In 1865 James received a Crown grant of 107 acres – section 43 and 44 in Kaiuma Bay: He held this for ten years but failing to utilize this asset, probably from lack of capital and from growing competition by other well-established miller, the land was conveyed by Supreme Court Order to the mill owner W.R. Brownlee who promptly put a mill on the property.
And so it was largely through this injustice that James broke his ties with the Pelorus and moved with his family to ‘foreign parts’ – to Ormond in Poverty Bay on the East Coast of the North Island.
Ormond at this time – about 1876 – was little more than a well planned town in the making, situated in a vast Kahikatea Forest on the plain through which flowed the Waipaoa River 15 miles from the mouth at Turanga, now Gisborne.
Backed by range upon range of forested hills, the area was in the process of being surveyed into huge blocks of up to 20,000 acres, and allotted to those who had money sufficient to “develop” them. Some of these stations still remain intact.
Owing to the swampy nature of the ground near the mouth of the Waipaoa which was joined at this point by the Turanganui, the first surveyors had considered that the main town should be established further inland where the ground was higher and less flood-prone than at Turanga which they considered would be the port to service the hinterland. Things have not worked out that way; but when the Climo’s arrived to set up their sawmill Ormond was a military settlement with barracks for the Armed Constabulary who were dealing with the Te Kooti troubles, and boasted two well-set-up hotels, the “Ormond” and the “Chandos”, a Post Office, Police Station with lock-up, bakery, school, a large general store and a doctor who served as required both town and port. There was also a small sawmill and not far away the deserted school and chapel of the Waerengs-a-hika Mission Station.
So in full hope of success for his venture and his growing family, James established his mill with sons John, Richard, Sam and Robert in the workforce, also George for a time, and young Jams (Jim) following his adored Sam as his shadow.
The first sadness to overtake the family was the death of the four-month old baby of Richard and Marianne, Augusina, named after her maternal grandmother, and though four other grandchildren, John’s two sons, George’s daughter, Elizabeth Catherine, and Richard’s daughter, Ada Adaline, were born at Ormond (registered at Turanga) the family had other difficulties to deal with. The mill houses still had earth floors and, through the stripping of the bush from the hills nearby, their homes became damp and Jane developed chest trouble.
In the winters of 1877 and 78 great floods occurred, blocking for months at a time the roads to Gisborne and making Robert’s bullock team immobile and the log supply for the mill run out. Sam’s venture as a coachman ended in disaster, while Robert lost three fingers in an accident with the saw. But worse still was the growing unhappiness between Richard and his wife who was finding the hardships of life unbearably. Finally, a great fire at Makauri demolished King’s Mill there, and 20 houses were burned, also the greater part of the timber supply for the Climo Mill. So things came to a head in 1879 when the family decided to move out, the one bright spot being Sam;s marriage to Johanna Gallagher at the New Year. By 1880 King had taken over Climo’s Mill and the family scattered far and wide.
Marianne Climo went to Clareville, Wairarpa where her sixth child Ernest Alfred was born, Robert (and Richard for a short time) went to Masterton where Robert, still driving a bullock team, hauled logs and timber for the first Waingawa truss bridge, also sleepers for the line. John and Kate went to Makotuku, near Norsewood, to one of the new Scandinavian settlements to help with the establishment of the mill, while Sam introduced Johanna to the Sounds in company with young Jim now a man of 17 years, with George and Alice Martha returning to Canvastown. Perhaps Jane rested for a while, she had certainly deserved time for recovery, but not so James, for an oft-told story in Robert’s family tells of his once again walking from Auckland to the Wairarapa, this time carrying a screw-jack! This could have been to help his grandson Harry Pope who at one time set up a mill near Carterton, but it is difficult to verify dates and events, so much history having been lost when the inevitable closures took place, the sites obliterated and the workers moved on to other places.
Halcombe and Inglewood
By 1882 Richard, well established as a contractor in Halcombe with his parents assisting him with his now motherless family, the old couple decided on a return to Taranaki taking with them little Alice Maude and settling in Inglewood with James at a local mill – probably as manager.
Having access to the local school Jane saw to it that the child received a good education, personally accompanying her as far as the little bridge over the stream she had to cross and meeting her there again in the afternoon. With fewer family commitments the grandparents had time to enjoy “Maude” as they called her, she who years later recounted the life and scene as she knew it. “Granny was always dressed in black; she had a constant “wheeze” (Bronchitis?); the cottage had an earth floor in the kitchen; grandfather was known as a ‘herbalist’ – sometimes called “Dr Climo” by those who knocked at his door on a Sunday seeking help and ‘first aid’; at night he would take her on his knee and sing old songs of Cornwall and tell her tales before a roaring rata fire; a lot of Maori people came to see him, and he spoke Maori like a native, also others who came spoke ‘gibberish’ (there was a large influx of newly arrived Poles in Inglewood), and so on the memories. Two songs Maude learned and passed on to her children – “Little Brown Jug” and “When First I saw Sweet Molly (The Low-backed Car)” sung with a wink and a nudge at Granny. It was a happy humoured home, but the winter of 1884 approached and Maude, by then between 8 and 9 years old was sent away to Palmerston North to a private school and Jane Climo died of chronic bronchitis on July 1st, and was buried in the Inglewood Cemetery.
So ended the life of a courageous and dutiful wife and mother who served her husband and family through good times and bad, though happiness and sorrow, through sickness and health and in the words of her marriage vow “for better or for worse.” We thank God for the life of Jane Climo.
Climo Family Record
|James Climo||b. Bodmin, Cornwall||c. 28 January 1822||d. 10 September 1911||Havelock|
|m. 30 October 1840||Stoke Damerel, Devon|
|Jane Phillips||b. Cornwall||c. 1821||d. 01 July 1884||Inglewood|
|ELIZABETH CATHERINE||b. 05 November 1841||New Plymouth||d. 01 June 1908||Havelock|
|m. 30 April 1857||Tataraimaka|
|George Whiting Pope|
|JOHN||b. 19 April 1846||New Plymouth||d. 21 April 1895||Wanganui|
|m. 11 October 1872||Havelock|
|JAMES||b. New Plymouth||c. 21 January 1848||d. 1848||New Plymouth|
|RICHARD||b. 12 February 1849||Auckland||d. 12 July 1918||Masterton|
|m. 05 May 1871||Picton|
|m. 14 July 1884||Fielding|
|Fanny Ellen Taylor|
|GEORGE||b. 12 August 1850||Auckland||d. 29 September 1903||Havelock|
|m. 05 July 1875||Havelock|
|Alice Martha Hollyman|
|EMILY||b. 11 June 1852||New Plymouth||d. 05 April 1902||Wanganui|
|m. 18 June 1867||Mahakipawa|
|SAMUEL SAMSON||b. 31 March 1854||New Plymouth||d. 19 November 1914||Blenheim|
|m. 07 January 1879||Gisborne|
|JANE||b. 06 November 1855||New Plymouth||d. 22 May 1944||Hamilton|
|m. 23 December 1873||Havelock|
|m. 16 December 1878||Havelock|
|Frank Wilson Pope|
|ROBERT||b. 16 July 1857||New Plymouth||d. 01 Feburary 1951||Hunterville|
|m. 23 May 1883||Havelock|
|ELLEN||b. 06 January 1859||New Plymouth||d. 22 May 1860|
|LOUISA ELLEN||c. 1860||d. 24 July 1925||Kaiparoro, Eketahuna|
|m. 30 December 1875||Wellington|
|JAMES||b.22 February 1862||Picton||d. February 1937||Hamilton|
|m. 27 May 1884||Havelock|
|ELizabeth Aby Aroa|
Many have been the questions asked as to why James and Jane had made their way back to Taranaki. Was Jane in search of her former good health? Did they have a nostalgic desire to see the farm at Tataraimaka and meet with old neighbours and friends? Or did Jane wish to see her mother who had re-married a few months after arrival to one Arthur Dawe, a fellow passenger on the “WILLIAM BRYAN”; or was it to see the family of her sister Anne James who died in 1876; or did old James want to be on the spot to defend yet another claim for compensation for the loss of the farm? (Those claims went on till 1902). No one knows the answers at this late date.
James had met Amelia Russell, of Inglewood, a widow, who with her sister had arrived in New Plymouth in 1877. Daughter of Josiah Kingcome of Devon, Amelia had been widowed two years earlier, and it is highly probable that she helped James during Jane’s illness and after her death. But a year later he took Amelia to Halcombe where they were married at the Town Board Office on June 24, 1885. They returned to Inglewood, though how long they remained in Taranaki is not known, but Amelia had a stabilizing effect on the families in Halcombe where Robert had already married in 1883, and Richard divorced and re-married in 1884, though it was 1890 before James took over as manager of the new mill across the Rangitikei River at Rata. Here John and Kate rejoined the father and brothers at Bailey’s and though Amelia continued to live at Halcombe she was able to reunite Richard’s first family for a time. Known as “Mrs Climo” she became respected and loved by many of the younger generations who frequently bestowed the name of Amelia on their children.
All went well at Rata with the grandchildren – especially Ada and Maude enjoying rides on the empty log wagons drawn by “Uncle Bob”s” bullocks up into the bush along the wooden tramlines; or walking to Sunday School to the home of Miss Arkwright who taught them the Faith, and gave them drinks of lemon juice before their long walk home on the dusty road! And those trails of starry white Clematis brought back to the camp by the men and presented to the pair “for being good girls”! With wreaths of white on their heads they were “brides for the day” and slept soundly in their happiness.
Thought to have been started by a spark from the nearby railway in the hot dry summer of 1894-95 a holocaust swept through the mill and timber yards and miles of standing bush, thus bringing to an end all milling in that district. So once again James was without means of support for his sons. But the young are resilient and wishing to try new fields John turned to boat building with high hopes of a career in fishing, but as told in his story tragedy struck culminating in his death from drowning in 1895 at the Wanganui Heads. James and Amelia together with Richard and Fanny and their three girls, and John’s eldest son James Henry, decided to return to the Sounds, James by this time approaching the age of eighty. Even so he was still regarded as a sawyer in 1905 when it was considered he had finally retired.
James and Amelia lived their last years quietly in Havelock, in a small cottage at the back of a substantial section (later used by a Chinese as a market garden), not far from the home of his daughter Elizabeth Catherine Pope. The site is now part of a motel complex.
In 1908 when he was 88 years old he recounted to the “Marlborough Express” some of his experiences since coming to New Zealand, copies of which were sent to his grandchildren. These are still treasured by their families to this day, and together with his obituary published in the “Pelorus Guardian” at the time of his death in 1911, have formed the basis of the research undertaken for this chronicle.
James Climo died in Havelock and was buried in the Havelock Cemetery on September 10, 1911 at the age of 91 years and only four months later Amelia was laid to rest beside him.
Following his death it was stated that James had 250 descendants. An exercise for the younger generation would be to tally the numbers on the family charts to ascertain today’s figure. Who knows? We might even send s contingent back to Cornwall to restore her by now deplete Climo numbers!!